發現一個不錯的懲戒騎插件，應該可以替代早就棄更的CLC
7.1更新發現ovale不能用了，在美服論壇轉了轉發現大家都專用了這個叫Hekili的插件。目前似乎沒發現漢化版。試用了一下還挺好用的，配置簡便，四技能優先級排列，自帶多目標檢測，不會在同時出現裁決和風暴讓各位大領主[del]亂按[/del]2選1了[s:ac:赞同]在奧格簡單試了下AOE的自動監控，似乎僅能檢查範圍內的多目標而無法檢查[b][color=red]帶有你審判debuff的多目標[/color][/b]，而且也無法自動檢查第三特質。[s:ac:怕]不過[del]對我這種懶人大領主來說[/del]總體還是不錯的啦。[url=/addons/wow/hekili]傳送門[/url]預覽效果見附件[s:ac:黑枪][img]./mon_/a6Q7gwy-13e2Z1jT3cS1cg-r9.jpg[/img]
難道大家的插件都沒問題嗎[s:ac:哼]
mark下 感谢分享
这个插件不是可以显示两排吗，另外一排就针对AOE的，不过这插件用他默认的优先级貌似和nga大领主们推荐的优先级不太一样，也没仔细研究，不过更新还是挺快的，昨天晚上都已经更新到for 7.1的版本的。
马克一下吧！
[b]Reply to [pid=]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=94060]moonewxp[/uid] ( 11:17)[/b]我今天早上第一次嘗試的時候已經變成自動根據你身邊的目標變循環了。不是很智能，但是配置里可以調節有幾個被你傷害的目標時觸發aoe循環
ovale已经更新了，刚去curse上看到了
最近被CLC TMW 搞晕了
这个会自动变更优先级的吧，比如图片里的，打完灰烬，下一个显示的就会是审判不是十字军了吧
[b]Reply to [pid=]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=8988120]本乡猛[/uid] ( 12:02)[/b]更新以后没有7.1的脚本啊 怎么选择呢？
留着等会用。
感谢分享~~
mark一记，谢谢[s:a2:goodjob]
这样不会更加累么～该放什么技能心里有数～这个会让人徒增烦恼
[b]Reply to [pid=]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=8988120]本乡猛[/uid] ( 12:02)[/b]是更新了，但是咱惩戒直接没办法用了，你看看就知道了。
这个不错…用了一晚上，打断也会提示
这个老司机不需要吧
[quote][tid=]Topic[/tid] [b]Post by [uid=]骑士娜娜[/uid] ( 09:32):[/b]7.1更新發現ovale不能用了，在美服論壇轉了轉發現大家都專用了這個叫Hekili的插件。目前似乎沒發現漢化版。試用了一下還挺好用的，配置簡便，四技能優先級排列，自帶多目標檢測，不會在同時出現裁決和風暴讓各位大領主[del]亂按[/del]2選1了[s:ac:赞同]在奧格簡單試了下AOE的自動監控，似乎僅能檢查範圍內的多目標而無法檢查[b][color=red]帶有你審判debuff的多目標[/color][/b]，而且也無法自動檢查第三特質。[s:ac:怕]不過[del]對我這種懶人大領主來說[/del]總體還是不錯的啦。[url=/addons/wow/hekili..[/quote]所以就是…无脑乱按撸完拉倒的懒人插件？所以这个和宏有啥区别…我对插件没有啥了解，目前还停留在只求界面好看的地步…说错了不要喷…
ovale只要核心更新就好，循环脚本我都是自己写的~~别人写的用起来不习惯，我就写一个单体循序，AOE的时候自己把裁决打成风暴，ADD的情况的话，自己考虑，不能完全靠插件的~Hekili - Priority Helper for Shamans now works for Retribution Paladins! - Page 9
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Originally Posted by Brewi
How did you skin the icons like in the screenshot? Masque?
EDIT: Masque doesn't work.
I use Masque and the screenshot is Masque: FlatSquares.
I'm still working out it doesn't show up in Masque for some folks.
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Originally Posted by Hekili
/hekili & Filters and Keybinds & Show Cooldowns.
Generally, you set a keybind so you can make it hide cooldowns when you're not wanting to use them (i.e., you're saving for a burst phase later on, or maybe Heroism/Bloodlust is coming in 20 seconds).
Turns out the real problem was Seraphim wouldn't show up asI was JUST then learning the talent. Relogging fixed it. I am an idiot. Thank you for your time.
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Originally Posted by Thorrbo
Turns out the real problem was Seraphim wouldn't show up asI was JUST then learning the talent. Relogging fixed it. I am an idiot. Thank you for your time.
That shouldn' the addon is intended to catch talent changes in real time.
I'm also putting Seraphim in the regular action lists so it will appear whether cooldowns are enabled or not.
Re-fixing since I broke it with these last updates.
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r144 is up.
Seraphim is back where it belongs, and Holy Avenger is better integrated into both action lists.
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When I have EDS and DP procs, and Final Verdict buff, it's telling me to use the DP proc on FV over DS, is this intended?
Originally Posted by Melocke
When I have EDS and DP procs, and Final Verdict buff, it's telling me to use the DP proc on FV over DS, is this intended?
if you follow the default priority, I believe that's how it's supposed to be on single target in order to prioritize not wasting potential additional DP procs.
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Originally Posted by Melocke
When I have EDS and DP procs, and Final Verdict buff, it's telling me to use the DP proc on FV over DS, is this intended?
Yes, because you will do more damage by consuming the FV buff with EDS than with a regular DS. In this situation, you would consume DP to over-write the FV buff, then consume the EDS proc. If you used DS first, it would consume the DP proc and the FV proc, leaving you with an EDS proc without the FV buff.
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For people enjoying Hekili for ret as much as I do, I thought I'd share my Weakauras built around Hekili. Just copy and import the string and I will share my Hekili-display settings with it.
I use just 1 display for Hekili with these settings:
-X-position: -83.
-Y-position: -236.
-Icon's Shown: 4
-Icon Spacing: 5
-Primary Iconsize: 80
-Queued Iconsize: 40
Screenshot of Auras together with the addon:
WA2 String:
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I hope someone will enjoy these and thanks to Hekili for putting the work into the addon.
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Originally Posted by Ohyumyumyum
I hope someone will enjoy these and thanks to Hekili for putting the work into the addon.
That's cool!
I'll probably use this with some minor visual tweaks.
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Originally Posted by Curulan
Yes, because you will do more damage by consuming the FV buff with EDS than with a regular DS. In this situation, you would consume DP to over-write the FV buff, then consume the EDS proc. If you used DS first, it would consume the DP proc and the FV proc, leaving you with an EDS proc without the FV buff.
If you have DP and EDS procs at the same time, using DS will use the EDS proc not the DP proc.
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Originally Posted by Melocke
If you have DP and EDS procs at the same time, using DS will use the EDS proc not the DP proc.
Regardless of all that, we can just look at the numbers.
If we're talking single-target, using my crappy gear (hey, I'm finally 100!), we get the following numbers:
FV: 12,185 to 13,441 Holy (unmitigated) damage.
That's 12,813 average damage from FV.
DS: 3,960 to 4,369 Holy (unmitigated) damage per target.
We're assuming single-target, so 4,164.5 average damage from DS.
Empowered Divine Storm is a 50% increase to Divine Storm.
Final Verdict is a 100% increase to Divine Storm.
4,164.5 * 1.5 * 2 = 12,493.5 average damage from DS + EDS.
That's less than Final Verdict.
Now, if you know you're going to hit two targets, DS obviously wins under these circumstances.
If the addon recommends FV instead of DS when you have buffs up and there are multiple targets, it probably hasn't detected the other targets because you haven't hit the secondary targets with anything yet.
The addon doesn't count enemies you haven't hit with anything (or haven't hit recently).
Despite all that, the addon should be recommending DS with EDS (Divine Crusader) up and FV up, if you're HoPo capped (entry #6), or else it it will recommend DS w/ EDS + FV later on (regardless of HoPo) at entry #30, meaning after you've put your HoPo generators on cooldown.
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I see the addon doesnt change behaviour during Avenging Wrath, it suggests me using judgement on less than half a second opening instead of doing the normal HoW CS HoW FV rotation.
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Will the addon still switch between Single/Cleave/AOE based on # of targets? An old revision I had did that but seems the new one forces me to change it.
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Originally Posted by Multiplay
I see the addon doesnt change behaviour during Avenging Wrath, it suggests me using judgement on less than half a second opening instead of doing the normal HoW CS HoW FV rotation.
You can tweak your own action list to do this, if you so desire.
It looks like entry #29 in the Ret: Single Target action list is what you'd be looking for.
You can add a check to see that Avenging Wrath is not up...
holy_power.current&5&!buff.avenging_wrath.up
...or compare action cooldowns...
holy_power.current&5&(!buff.avenging_wrath.up|(action.crusader_strike.cooldown&action.judgment.cooldown+0.5&action.hammer_of_wrath.cooldown&action.judgment.cooldown+0.5&action.exorcism.cooldown&action.judgment.cooldown+0.5))
...or anything else that makes sense to you.
Three additional tips:
If you change a default script, there can be unintended consequences.
Because the action list is written to accommodate all talent and glyph combinations, you have to stop and consider if it's going to cause a problem for another talent combination.
If you edit your action list, I'd recommend unchecking Default on the action list.
This will prevent the addon from overwriting the list when an update comes out.
I highly recommend testing your changes in SimulationC that's the main reason why the addon emulated SimulationCraft syntax so closely.
You can look for the equivalent entry in the default SimulationCraft profile and see if your change is DPS neutral or positive.
Running quick simulations for both of those criteria above reflects a tiny DPS loss (about 150 for either version).
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Originally Posted by MarshallX
Will the addon still switch between Single/Cleave/AOE based on # of targets? An old revision I had did that but seems the new one forces me to change it.
/hekili & Filters and Keybinds
You specify whether you want the automatic behavior by setting the Switch Type and Current Mode, your hotkey then toggles the current mode based on the switch type.
If you want it to work automatically, you would set both settings to Auto.
(That's the default behavior, btw.)
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Originally Posted by Hekili
/hekili & Filters and Keybinds
You specify whether you want the automatic behavior by setting the Switch Type and Current Mode, your hotkey then toggles the current mode based on the switch type.
If you want it to work automatically, you would set both settings to Auto.
(That's the default behavior, btw.)
I seem to be unable to get it to function like this, or maybe I'm misunderstanding. At moment ive got two rows of abilities, aoe and single target, I want to just have one row and it switch between single and aoe priorities like it seems it should, but it's not functioning like that. Can't see what I'm missing though.
High Overlord
Originally Posted by Melocke
If you have DP and EDS procs at the same time, using DS will use the EDS proc not the DP proc.
Note to self: coffee before posting.
Originally Posted by Ohyumyumyum
For people enjoying Hekili for ret as much as I do, I thought I'd share my Weakauras built around Hekili. Just copy and import the string and I will share my Hekili-display settings with it.
I hope someone will enjoy these and thanks to Hekili for putting the work into the addon.
+1 on all of this. Looks pretty good.
Bloodsail Admiral
Originally Posted by Kochanski
I seem to be unable to get it to function like this, or maybe I'm misunderstanding. At moment ive got two rows of abilities, aoe and single target, I want to just have one row and it switch between single and aoe priorities like it seems it should, but it's not functioning like that. Can't see what I'm missing though.
First, turn off the AOE display.
/hekili & Displays & Ret: AOE & Enabled (uncheck)
Second, set Filters and Keybinds as described previously:
/hekili & Filters and Keybinds & Switch Type (set to Auto) & Current Mode (set to Auto)
You will still probably want to set a keybind so you can force the display to show single-target only, since you don't always want to cleave everything even though they're there.
Remember, the addon's target detection is based on what you've hit recently.
If 5 enemies come out, and you use exclusively single-target abilities on only one of them, the addon will only know about the target you're focused on.
So pop a HotR when appropriate to tell the addon there's more to kill.
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Originally Posted by Hekili
Despite all that, the addon should be recommending DS with EDS (Divine Crusader) up and FV up, if you're HoPo capped (entry #6), or else it it will recommend DS w/ EDS + FV later on (regardless of HoPo) at entry #30, meaning after you've put your HoPo generators on cooldown.
Thanks, I understand now about my original question. But I have a couple more, if you don't mind (or anyone else).
A couple times, following what the addon is telling me, I've lost EDS procs (no FV buff). Should there be an entry about using it when the buff timer is low? Or is it more damage to just ignore it and use HoPo generators instead?
Also, there have been times where I have an EDS proc (no FV buff) and CS/J/Exo are all on cooldown and it's having me wait for CS: I'm not sure if it's because there isn't a whole GCD left on CS cooldown, or something else is going on.
Had a weird issue happen a couple times tonight in MC where while in combat the priority was Kings buff, even with that buff present. It wouldn't clear until I cast Kings, then around five seconds after the priority showed Might. Again it wouldn't leave until cast.
Field Marshal
Possible to add a option to only display when targeting a valid target, like CLCRet? Kinda annoying to have the rows up when just flying around/ turning quests in etc
Other than that, it looks good, haven't played with it fully but am sure I will like it!
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